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hi everybody josh barley here inside

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mission control i'm joined by tara

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rutley the associate program scientist

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for the international space station she

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actually just got back from wallops

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she's been traveling this week she saw i

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guess you were you there for the launch

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i missed the launch missed lunch but you

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were there for the news conference

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probably not as much fun but that's okay

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it's always fun

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so let's talk about cygnus it's on its

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way to the space station it'll be there

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this weekend it's carrying just tons of

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science for the crew a lot of student

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experiments talk a little bit about

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what's uh what's on board oh boy we have

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just about every kind of discipline on

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board

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so we have a big deal about this launch

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is that we have a lot of national

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laboratory payloads so the national lab

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is managed by cases so this is a big one

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for cases because it's the first launch

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that has the largest amount of cases

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selected science on it so what that

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means is it's going to enable a lot of

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research that's going to be focused on

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earth benefits

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such as um looking at how ants behave in

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space that's an educational earth

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benefit yeah um you know there's a

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habitat right there there you go um we

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have flown other

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creatures to stations so to speak what

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we're interested in with the ants is

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looking at how their movement behavior

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changes in different patterns in a

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microgravity environment and we don't

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know how they're going to behave we've

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never looked at this before and it's

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actually going to be performed on orbit

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and at the same time

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you know there'll be cameras watching

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these ants and that that imagery and

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video will be beamed down to students on

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the ground and the students will have

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their own education experiments with the

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ants set up in different classrooms all

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around the country following the

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movement of the amps predicting what

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they might do for thinking and learning

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about ant behavior and just probing the

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minds of the students as scientists and

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get them asking the important questions

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at the same time it's really fun because

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you know they're getting real on orbit

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imagery and

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and ants are kind of cool to learn about

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anyway i remember back we flew some

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spiders back a few years ago and i think

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one of the things that amazed me was

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that you know here's this small insect

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that adapted extremely quickly to being

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up in space and there's lessons to be

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learned from that right yeah it did yeah

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the lessons to be learned about

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adaptation apply to

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every living organism that flies in

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microgravity we're all creatures of the

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gravity environment so we humans

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astronauts we go up there we adapt we

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come home we have to readapt again to

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earth we saw it with the butterflies

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when they were learning to fly first it

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was kind of tough for them then they got

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the hang of it on orbit we learned it

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with the ant with the uh spiders um

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especially the ones that have to jump

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after their two yeah yeah because when

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they got home you know we we saw videos

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of the the spiders jumping and landing

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on their backs because they weren't used

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to jumping in on earth anymore right so

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they figured it out eventually and they

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were able to jump normally again but

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every creature goes through a

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re-adaptation period which is why the

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space station's important especially for

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exploration beyond low earth orbit yeah

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you know we talk a lot about you know

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the space station inspires students a

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lot and you know the space station's

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critically important for science i think

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one of the cool things about these these

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recent flights that we've had with

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cygnus and even the spacex flights that

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there's a lot of student activity on

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board you know we talked about it before

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there's 23 schools participating close

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to 9 000 students but they're doing real

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science like these aren't just fun

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experiments i mean they were fun but

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they're they're real science that

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they're actually looking at talking

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about yeah talk about that so there are

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several investigations as part of the

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student space uh space flight

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exploration program um where that's

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through the national center for earth

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and space science education

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ncese

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dot org and um yeah 23 different uh

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investigations ranging from bacterial

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growth uh

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to uh chemical decomposition to uh to

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all sorts of things and they they go up

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in these tiny little mix sticks and when

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they're on orbit they're activated when

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they come home the students will receive

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those samples back and look at the

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results of their proposals or their

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hypotheses and in fact these students

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you know i think over 8 000 students are

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represented on the ground by just these

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23 payloads and there were thousands

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there was about 2 000 proposals that

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were submitted so it was highly

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competitive um and you know these these

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proposals had to take you know go from

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beginning to end why do you think my

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science counts what's important what are

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we going to learn what's unique about

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microgravity and then these guys are

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going to come back in the summer and

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talk on stage in dc at the smithsonian

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about their results so this is we're

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talking fifth graders you know fifth

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through twelve i never did i never did

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such a thing when i was a fifth grader i

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don't think i was doing that yeah yeah

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so the opportunities that are coming

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through space station for students or

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and they're ongoing just just tremendous

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so talk about you know we you know the

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news came out this week that the the

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administration's proposed the station to

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be extended in 2024 things like that it

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do you think that that's a good thing

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that it'll give us more chances to kind

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of see the real benefits of this i mean

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science doesn't science is not fast

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right it takes a while to kind of get

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these things up there study it and you

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know what is

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what do you think that will allow us to

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do in terms of the benefits of seeing

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things here on earth oh man you know

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first of all what it's going to do now

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for us at this very minute is allow us

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end in 2020. because you said science

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takes time

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scientists want to know how can we

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replicate what we're doing and do it

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over and over again and make sure that

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what we're going to publish is a real

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benefit to earth or space so um so yeah

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the the 2024 extension is going to give

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increased

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science portfolios increase numbers but

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also time to get the benefits and

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communicate the pup to the public what

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the benefits are and as you can

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science you build on science right so

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you get a basic discovery you build and

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you build and you build and in the end

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what you get is something that you hope

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is applicable to earth or space so 2024

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is going to be really exciting we've

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seen it all ramp up so far it's just

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going to get even better yeah so last

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question for you always ask this

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everybody favorite experiment on board

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maybe not right now but just in in

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everything you've ever worked on what's

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your favorite i fluctuate because you

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talk about colloids a lot which took me

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forever to understand it but you know

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colloids the colons are cool colloids

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they're not my favorite but they're cool

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um you know they they allow us to

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investigate the behavior of tiny little

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particles and a mixture of liquids such

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as milk and and believe it or not guys

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there's there's behavior that happens in

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uh that you're just you're oblivious to

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but but when you're pouring your fabric

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softener in you want to know that what

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you're using is stable and good right

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and in that mix is colloids and so we

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look at investigations of colloids on

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the space station because we want to

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know how those tiny little particles

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really do behave because if we can

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figure it out and manipulate them what

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you get is an end product that is

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optimized for how we ever use it whether

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it's putting it in our clothes or

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drinking it right so that that's a cool

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one my favorite right now though is as

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the ams looking for dark matter and dark

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secrets of the universe yeah

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everybody wants that small task but it's

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the coolest thanks tara appreciate it if

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you want to learn more about the orbital

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sciences cygnus and what's on board just

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log onto nasa.gov orbital and of course

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we always invite you to nasa.gov station

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look on the left hand side of the page

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you'll see your research and technology

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link there just click on that and you

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can actually look up every experiment

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that the crew is actually working on

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either by expedition or by alphabetical